Theory: It Is Happening Again

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Hello, Theorists. Hudson here again, because - if you’re anything like me - you’re right back in Theory Hell. The following is a list of our new mysteries. I’ll update this as new shit comes along. Any questions? You can hit me up on the MUX on Hudson, or any of my PCs (Nicole, Odessa, Rue or Niki).

Let’s get back to business, shall we?

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Major Update January 28, 2018:
Individual theory pages have been created for the following sections:
Broadcasts Scanner
Broadcasts Radio
Broadcasts Ferrymen
Eyes of Sun and Moon
Comtitles Manhattan
Comtitles Queens
Update: February 13, 2018:
Added Corona

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Cardinal says, "Delia: chalk is a hard thing to explain. At its base it means 'being really into figuring out theories and conspiracies and what is going on'. The chalkier you get, the closer you are to wearing a tinfoil hat and declaring that there is no Pepe Silvia."



  • Joy has appeared in the following scenes:
  • Seems to have an ability that allows her to absorb abilities of other Evolved upon their death (Psychopomp)
    • Sorry about you life, Peter.
    • The fall of the Commonwealth Arkology must've been an all-you-can-eat buffet (Arkfall, Part V)
    • They with Eyes of Sun and Moon seems to have an awful lot of abilities associated with them - coincidence?
  • Fuck me, y'all. She's got the conduits. Both of them. That's the whole reason why her first log is titled what it is. Death and Life. Black Conduit, White Conduit. Her first appearance is two days after we believed the conduits to be destroyed, and she was in Mexico. Ojas Amargos keeps coming up. Holy. Fucking. Shit! (The Fear of Death/The Fear of Life, The End)
    • The Fear of Death/The Fear of Life was set literally two days after the Conduits 'destroyed' themselves, and that log has fragments of Conduit memories from various other logs at its beginning. I think we can assume this is a home run theory here. Although I wonder if LeRoux has the White Conduit - it's notoriously slippery, LeRoux may be blood related to Francois, and 'Life Sense'…
  • Joy is Freya…. Possibly part of the Vangard at somepoint… My reasoning is found here: Freya
    • To quote: "As leader of the Valkyries, she had considerable power. She had the right to claim half the souls of the bravest warriors who died in battle. Actually going onto the battlefield, she would gather them up and take them back with her to spend the after-life in her home in perpetual rest and recreation."
    • Joy gathers the abilities of Evo's when they die and carries them with her.
    • If Joy is collecting a piece of them… What if it is not just the abilities, but some of their memories, too.
      • 02/12/2018 - New thought with this in mind. What if everything we have been seeing is simply the voices of the dead. How many have died that have witnessed multiple futures???? Hell Brian does all the time. This might explain why we are seeing so many different timelines. Repeats of logs. With that way open… with people traveling here from flood future… It makes so much sense!

Mateo Javier Ruiz

  • Ruiz has appeared in the following scenes:
  • So far he has recognized Lynette and Odessa, referring to them rather familiarly as 'Nette and 'Dess
    • He also recognizes Veronica Sawyer, referring to her by surname
    • He did not recognize Tamara
    • He recognized Bella, noted that she's "always a therapist," and used her surname without it having been offered
    • Lynette died in his timeline (in his presence, it sounds like) and it was not a fun experience for him. Ruiz Bookend
  • Possible flood future refugee? Many references to water and boats, etc. (Be the Overflow, The Razor)
    • Ruiz states he doesn't "think anyone's ever been further" from home than he is, suggesting he may not be from this timeline (Interesting People)
    • He also implies that wherever he came from, he didn't mean to leave (Dess)
    • Wherever he was from, Ruiz and Odessa were lovers (Dess)
      • When she finds him in the Ark, newly restored, he initially mistakes her for his Dess, suggesting his timeline is either divergent from after this point, or in some possible parallel where Odessa's bloody confrontation with Eileen never happened
      • His Dess may be dead, he says he didn't mean to leave her behind, but maybe he had to leave her somewhere to die (Oscar Isaacs sang a song once and it had pretty lyrics and I haven't slept in 36 hours)
      • It's possible that Dess doesn't have Odessa's ability, because he seemed to recognize he wasn't looking at Dess anymore when he realized she had stopped time on him (Dess)
  • He apparently knows and hates Veronica Sawyer (The Razor)
  • Ruiz has a collection of books in his suite (The Razor)
    • By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept by Elizabeth Smart
    • The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury
    • The Man in the High Castle by Philip K Dick
    • The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester
    • Ficciones by Jorge Luis Borges
      • This is now in the possession of Odessa
    • But has he read Mean Heat though?
  • According to his dossier, Ruiz has the ability to create connected portals (Known by Odessa, known by Veronica Sawyer and confirmed in The Razor)
    • According to what Odessa has read, tests of his ability by the Institute have Not Gone Well
    • Should we be calling him Chell or…
  • What is the garden?
    • In the delirium, Ruiz speaks to Odessa in Spanish, which she barely understands, save for one word: Jardín (Dess)
    • Could be referring to The Garden of Forking Paths, a short story contained within Ficciones
      • In the story, the each path in the garden represents different choices made, each path running parallel, suggesting that all possibilities happen simultaneously in different space, rather than time
  • So, Liz found a really great article about black holes and I theorize that this is how Ruiz managed to travel from his timeline into ours
  • In the drabble "607", Ruiz laments that he was unable to save someone 607 days ago
    • This could be referring to Lynette, who he definitely saved in the Ark
    • It could also be referring to Dess, as he did die knowing she escaped the Ark
      • Incidentally, 607 days before November 8, 2011, Odessa Knutson was being "recruited" to return to the Company as an agent (What)
        • This is almost certainly a coincidence that I'm not reading too much into; after all, we have no idea if Ruiz stepped properly sideways (i.e. May 3 in Flood Timeline to May 3 in our canon timeline)

Nathalie LeRoux

Mrs Who

Francis Allen

  • Thought to be Francois Allegre, he was in Ojas Amargos, Mexico, but we have no date for that information. Whatever 'was found' there led Adrienne Allen to believe that he was dead. What was he doing there? When was here there?
    • I found an review of a study in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology — review is published in 2017, HOWEVER the research WITHIN the studies that were being reviewed were from 1995 until 2014. The studies in question all looked at the in vitro antibacterial activities of medicinal plants used in traditional Mexican medicine. Francois's medical knowledge and herbal medicine knowledge I knew in both of my alts (Meg and Liz). Is it possible he came across a plant here for doing something ELSE in vitro? Or maybe tried to destroy whatever they were working on for drugs there (because the email indicates that there was destruction enough that Francis was believed dead). Article link: here
    • The Institute has been conducting in vitro experiments in the past: Anger To Conviction


Ojas Amargos, Mexico

Mystery Lake, Manitoba, Canada

  • 9674Q4FQ+2C (from a Manhattan Comtitle)

Dachau, Germany

  • 8FWH7FF8+GQ (from a Manhattan Comtitle)
  • Perhaps one of the broadcasts on the radio took place here?

Eureka, Nevada

  • 85G53F6X+8P (from a Manhattan Comtitle)

The Commwealth Institute

  • San Francisco, California

Channel Broadcasts

NBD, just some torture. I mean, some hints. No, I mean torture.








Law Enforcement

References to Chase Down


The Inheritors of Hope

  • A landscape-oriented painting of a raven with its wings outspread and the silhouette of a castle rising off of its back, and inverted coming down from the bottom of the raven as well. Except the inverted castle silhouette looks like streaks of blood
  • A painting depicting nothing but darkness
    • Stomped butterflies
  • One from the Brill collection of a restored Midtown full of trees and life
  • Three unfamiliar women. One of them is sitting at a desk, and the others are flanking the desk's sides. The white-haired woman at the desk has spectacles, and holds a snowglobe in her hand with a miniature of the city of Manhattan in it, surrounded by a concrete barricade. The woman on her right, possibly in her fifties, has dyed blonde hair and has a traditional black witches hat and is holding a broom. The third woman, somewhere in age between the others has wavy hair that is blonde gone gray. She has a cigarette in one hand and is dressed in layers of jackets and scarves.
    • Each woman has on a fish hook-style necklace, identical to that worn by Walter Trafford
    • Eve painted this before she left the Ark for the last time
    • Three Witches, Three Mothers… I'm coming back for you Theory below co-signed
    • It seems likely these are the heads of the Deveraux Group - Alice Shaw, Claudia Zimmerman, and Sabra Dalton
    • The 'fish hook' is the symbol of the Deveraux Group
  • Per Simon Broome: "These were the future, but these events have all come to pass already. They were a part of our roadmap, the twists in the river along the way. But, unfortunately, we didn't know what we didn't know."


Eyes of Sun and Moon

  • Hudson's Note: This is a rough translation of the kanji and romaji going on in this one. The first two bullets and the last bullet are almost absolutely solid. 99% sure. My kanji is good. All hell breaks loose in the romaji, though. Once I translated most of the hiragana back into the proper kanji… (kanji matters so much) things got a little clearer. Except for the part that can translate into two different kanji that mean two completely different things and both work grammatically and possibly contextually and fuck. /sigh So, I'm a lot shakier on that bit. Going with best guesses on bullets three and four, because, while grammar is my strong suit, the grammar here is… tricky.
    • "Takama-ga-hara (The High Plane of Heaven)" The name shakes darkness into light. A scream, a roar, and a sudden inhalation of breath.
    • Overhead, the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
    • A ring of fire around a circle of black is an open eye. Gold ringing a black iris, gold glowing. One tanned hand reaches out and grasps his throat. Torches burn in the cave. "Y- you! You're- alive!" He chokes out the words, the hand chokes him. A face leans in, hidden by dark hair. A smile; desiring, toying. His, pained.
    • "Why…" That smile grows, the hand around his neck tightens. "Do you think…" One dark brow raises. "I can die/you can kill me?" He is lifted up by that single, slender arm. Gold nails press into his skin, draw blood. Droplets float up, not down.
      • Word of God: "Do you think I can die?"
    • "I made you." They With Eyes of Sun and Moon proclaims, piercing gold nails into pale skin. "You… are mine." He can't breathe, can't scream. The thin, tan arm glistens with sweat. They With Eyes of Sun and Moon leans in, dark hair by fair hair. Lips nearly touching.
  • So! I think we're beginning with Adam's origin here - his first resurrection during the eclipse - followed by some epic showdown where he is getting his ass handed to him
      • Seconded. I assumed it was a story about how he became SLC Expressive or the first time it manifested sommat.
    • Sorry about your life, Barbara
    • Okay I've spent two and a half hours look at this scene and translating shit and being kind of unsettled by what even the hell is going on here? I'm done. The rest of you can pile in here and have a damn party
  • Luther's Disclaimer: I'm by no means an expert (nor fluent speaker) of Japanese language, only studied it in university. I intend here to lend some fun insights, extra translation, and possible subtext that I gleaned from the dream's use of Japanese.
    • Some background: Japanese culture is highly influenced with the idea of relationships, social circles and power plays. The language itself reflects this, allowing the speaker and listener to establish who they are status wise in relation to each other and what action is going on between them immediately through the use of certain words in the language.
      • Use of anata by Kensei and the Unknown Party indicates the two share a *close* bond.
        • Anata is a second person pronoun rarely used for parties outside of one's inner circle. It denotes familiarity, closeness, rather than other second-person pronouns kimi (neutral or equal 'you') or omae (masculine usage or informal, see when Hiro's father Kaito speaks to Hiro, or when Ando speaks to Hiro): Landslide
        • In contrast, Anata is a pronoun oft reserved for two people in a close (possibly romantic) relationship; think 'dear' or even 'darling'. For example, Hiro refers to Yaeko using anta (a contraction of anata) when speaking to her in relation between her and Kensei ("He knows you are waiting for him"), and when Kensei (Adam) shows up and Yaeko speaks to him using anata ("I will never doubt you again"): Kindred
        • It can also denote a superior to subordinate (though it may sound strange due to said connotation of closeness and familiarity); only a superior power talking down to a subordinate would use anata, not vice versa. It also has instances of use for a parent talking to a child (such as a mother speaking to a son, and unlikely for a father to speak to a son in this same manner, again because use of anata is most often portrayed as a pronoun used by women only).
      • Watashi wa anata o tsukutta, Anata wa watashi no mono desu translated to "I made you" and "You are mine (lit: you are a thing of me)" could be any number of nuanced power plays implied here. That both speakers use anata comments about their relationship to each other. Things to consider and ponder:
        • Are they romantically involved?
        • Are they superior and subordinate?
        • Are they creator and creation?
        • Or as a parent and child?
        • Or as Frankenstein and Monster?
    • Use of watashi by the ??? speaker reads as a gender neutral and status neutral pronoun. However, watashi may be a standard 'I' or 'me', but is markedly different than other first person pronouns that could be used such as boku (a childlike, slightly boyish connotation, as seen when Hiro refers to himself), or ore (masculine, reference Ando when he speaks about himself or includes himself in the group, he uses ore-tachi), or atashi (a more soft, feminine version of watashi). In this way, it's still mysterious who the speaker may be.
      • That being said, a face hidden by dark hair (implied longer length), slender arm and golden nails hints at a stereotypically feminine body shape.
    • More on Japanese pronouns!
  • NGL, I feel like Joy's appearance is related to this, somehow - maybe a reincarnation thing, given all her powers? (Hunch)
  • Hey. Hey guys. Guys:
    • If you put
    • black pupils
    • over gold irises
    • it kind of looks like the corona of an eclipse
      • I'll let you guess how the man responded when I paged him that
  • Izanami, is that you??
    • For elaboration, as pointed out to me by Elaine, in Japanese myth, Izanagi, creator of heaven and all of Japan, gave birth to the sun from his left eye and the moon from his right. Furthermore, much of the context of this scene potentially echoes the part of the creation myth where Izanagi delves into Yomi in search of Izanami. We may be seeing the people this myth is based on - the actual Izanagi and Izanami.
      • And if the above is true WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE?!

The Ordinary World/Monochrome Delirious

  • I told you guys Monochrome Delirious wasn't just bullshit!!!
    • This one appears to be the Flood timeline, but Cardinal pointed out that at the time Odessa went through this experience, the Flood had not yet been averted in our canon timeline
        • Which raises the question: If it wasn't a sideways look, was it a look to the future?
  • The Ordinary World features a brunette Odessa who's received a gunshot wound to the shoulder; in her opium haze technicolor nightmare, Odessa is shot in the shoulder by Mitchell
  • Ordinary World appears to be the theme song for the Virus future, if we are to believe recent mash-ups in Manny's radio broadcasts. Wasn't Odessa rather intimately involved in triggering this timeline?
    • Odessa is kind of the foster mother of the ultimate form of the Advent Virus in that timeline, yes
    • This being the Virus timeline is further supported by the depiction of Odessa shooting up with Adynomine, presumably to keep her ability at bay and keep her from contracting the virus herself
  • My current pet theory is that Odessa's ability being scrambled means she is somehow able to see/sync up with her alternate selves. In Monochrome Delirious, Odessa had been on a frightening combination of morphine, Amphodynamine, a recursive feedback loop of augmentation from both Peter and Gillian, followed up by opium. For The Ordinary World, Odessa was recovering from the effects of the excess radiation that caused Darren Stevens' ability to go haywire, thus restoring hers and causing her to take his as well. In short, her ability is currently jacked, and I suspect this may be causing her consciousness to slip sideways when she's sleeping or in some kind of drug induced haze
    • I fully expect this theory to be debunked in short order, as I suspect we'll see other people have glimpses of their alternate selves, but until that time, I don't think this is the worst notion

Breathe in the Air

  • This one clearly takes place in the Virus timeline, and seems to pick up very shortly after The Ordinary World
  • The scene is set to Breathe (In the Air), which is a track from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon
  • Edward sent Odessa off to die - for what reason? We aren't 100% certain
    • Per Manhattan, Edward would use his ability to calculate the probability of him being infected, and Odessa wasn't dosing with her Adynomine regularly. If she was a contagion risk, that might have been enough reason to have her eliminated
  • Who is in the photo that Odessa recognizes as her family?
    • In our timeline, Odessa has nothing that would even remotely be construed as a family. She wouldn't even consider her deceased parents to be her family, as she never knew them

Eyes of Sun and Moon, II

  • So. That happened. Let's start with some translations, shall we?
  • No. Ella está aquí conmigo.
    • No. She is here with me.
  • Ha… Ha sucedido de nuevo. No… No podemos mantenerlos juntos.
    • It… It has happened again. No… We cannot keep them together.
  • Arthur, no podemos.
    • Arthur, we cannot.
  • Ellos necesitan estar separados.
    • They need to be separated.
  • Dejame quedarme con ella!
    • Let me stay with her!
  • It seems the girl at the table doesn't understand what's being said by her "mother," and only truly clues in to what's happening when her "brother" starts to panic
  • Clearcut, the main said - trying to get to the phone. Some kind of trigger word or alarm?
  • This one is also set to Pink Floyd, this one Eclipse, which we've seen in Broadcasts: Radio, and it also seemed to be tied to a… clearly sinister presence, which I think this counts as
    • Calling this one "Corona's" theme
  • The shelves were thrown over, metal frames knocked into each other making a slanted "A" shape.
    • Manhattan's current comtitle as of this writing is Aftermath> and we don't think it's a coincidence
  • Also the synopsis for this one is "It's happening again" and I can't decide if that's referencing me (the title of this theory page) referencing Twin Peaks or skipping the middleman and just referencing Twin Peaks - ijs
  • We know that this new volume is going to involve some things brought in from Heroes: Reborn — Kravid, for one. These twins seem to be somehow involved with Arthur Petrelli, and have to be 'separated' for some power-related reason. Could these be our version of Malina and Tommy?
Adding to this…

It's Going to Get Weird

  • No shit Okay, so this is probably Varlane, and also our timeline, given LeMay's conversation with Erica referencing the recently announced relocation efforts and such
  • It appears like Pete straight up reconstituted the dead Magnes… clone? Via a piece of his brain, it seems like. I posit it's the amygdala, or the hippocampus, as those are parts of the limbic system that are responsible for memory
    • Alternatively, I can make a great case for the pituitary gland, given its function
  • LeMay says they need to "make sure the research wasn't lost," which leads me to believe there is something in Magnes'/Varlane's head that's important to the Institute, but I could be misreading the correlation here


These wizards are killing us softly with their song and comtitles with hints of What Is To Come. Or possibly What Has Been. Or maybe… waugh, I'm getting a headache.

Manhattan Is Full of Shit

Queens Is Now In On the Action

Ellis Has Joined In On This Shit

Now They're Just Messing With Us

Project Icarus

  • Manhattan send a load of binary that translated into a website of dubious origins. (As mentioned in Places above, the San Francisco branch of The Commonwealth Institute is busy busy busy.)
    • What Is Project Icarus? - A password protected website. Several different passwords appear to be needed to access the whole site. How many? Who knows! What are they? We may die before we find out all of them!
    • Three passwords (if you don't have them and want them, contact Odessa/Niki or ask around. Plenty have them, but not posting in case people wanna work it out themselves still). First one on main page, one for Bulletins, one for Project Eclipse. There is also an email archive that has a link hidden in plain sight on one of the pages. (Again, ask around, not posting in case others want the fun of searching).

Safe Zone

  • Possibly a reference to the Manhattan Exclusion Zone? (Fly Blind)
  • Related Comtitles:
    • The Safe Zone Co-Op Has Opened
    • Scheduled brownouts are essential for power conservation in the Safe Zone.

Chesterfield Act

  • Can't be worse than the Linderman Act, right? (Hunch)
    • You sure about that?
      • Not really


  • Monica brought up Panzerhund on channel and Manhattan laughed so idekwtf
    • Context suggests that it might be a unit that carries out operations similar to Mossad's nazi hunters after WW2. Going after Humanis? Or Evolved?
    • Could be the Wolfhound group that has already been mentioned. Their units are called "Wendigo" and it's been suggested they report to SESA.
      • Hana's new faction created from the remains of the Ferrymen?


  • Because fuck you, that's why


Robyn's Ever Evolving Whiteboard of Insanity

  • Current version here

Hudson's Random Questions

  • Do Oreos still exist in the future?
    • Because if they don't, I don't know what we're trying to save
  • Why did I add Monochrome Delirious to the original theory page?
    • Was it my totally valid theory about birds and Eileen?
    • Or was it because the entire set was added to Woods' character page the day before?
      • Why does a character who's been long dead suddenly need a character page anyway?
        • And why are the only logs listed (beyond first and last appearance) for a set of scenes everyone laughed at me for seeing significance in?
  • So, what if the reason all the broadcasts have songs associated with them is because the flood crew is listening to records on a gramophone? Records screech. And pop. And hiss. Goddamn.

Elle Has Too Much Time On Her Hands

  • The Garden of Forking Paths, because I figured I would offer up an easy reference to this shit, since they clearly want us to read it.
    • But I don't have too much time on my hands to format it all pretty like.

Kaylee-Player Thoughts

  • This devices whatever it is, seems to not be homing in on radio waves. At first, I wondered if it was someone who might have an ability… but… I’ve revised that to what I have below
  • It is homing in on the electromagnetic waves that the brains produces. THE DEVICE IS GATHERING MEMORIES! The storm that keeps being referenced could be strengthening this device and making it reach further.
  • The music is just a side effect, maybe these songs are playing nearby on a radio, which means we get to hear what they people are listening too, when they are remembering these memories. Doesn’t mean that the song is happening while the scene is going. (Odessa-player had a good thought that music is tied to memories sometimes)
  • More importantly….. This device seems to be tuned into Odessa, especially. Odessa in turn seems to be connected through all space to all other versions of herself. She’s done a lot of time stuff lately and in the past who knows what doorways that opened to allow her to be linked to all her forms. Where she is dead, we have Joy (Who has a piece of Odessa within her (See my theory on Joy under her tab).
      • When one dies… that connection might be that green spark we saw in the one log.
      • HOLY CRAP! WHAT IF IT IS TUNED INTO JOY… That she has not just abilities, but memories within her. If she has Odessa within her… then she is connected to Odessa/Joy's across timelines too! (My mind is blown) And she would be a strong source of electromagnetic energy.
  • A lot of the memories seem to stem from connections. Mainly, Vanguard connections are what I ended up focusing on. Whether from them, or through them. How many of them were touched by Kazmir. Physically? It would explain why Eileen’s telepathic message came through. Also how many people that were touched by Kazmir touched others, leaving little connections… IDK if that makes sense. Does in my head. Better theory now.. involves JOY!
  • From the scene where Kaylee killed Eileen (sorry Eileen) it was mentioned there was something bigger going on. What if there is something of Kazmir in each Vanguard associate that in a way connects them. Which might explain why Eileen was able to try and take over Kaylee/Joseph’s son. A bit of Kazmir in all of them… He never truly dies. Kinda like a virus. The contagion is still there scattered. Seemed like whatever was in Eileen was going back to… something…. So… Kazmir might still be out there. A better theory came to mind… mainly based on Joy. Where is Joy in all of these mayhem!?!
  • Where am I going with this?
      • This device seems to read brainwaves (electromagnetic) and connected to Odessa(somehow) OR the entity of Kazmir JOY.
      • Odessa’s recent stuff has her ability all messed up. So, in theory, somehow she is connected to herself in all the timelines. She is now a window into each timeline, but the device is using her connections to the Vanguard or the Kazmir entity to show us their memories. NOt them.. JOY and Odessa are connecting through ODESSA's ability.
  • I’m still trying to connect the newest log… which seems to connect to all the radio broadcasts with the {}’s in it. But Odessa seems to be the key to the content.
  • And is this new unknown(21) connected to the logs with the binary code in it, is it the same person. IDK…
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